Feminist Blogs Respond to Club Culture and Rape Article
AlterNet: MediaCulture:
At the above link, there are several wonderfully pithy responses by the elite blog Uterati (I mean that as a compliment, obviously) to an article by self-proclaimed but not really feminist Liz Funk in which she basically blames young women for getting themselves raped.
Huh. I thought rapists did the raping... anyway, let me make a few observations.
1) SOME clubs are meat markets. Everybody knows what they're getting and most people who go to a particular club want whatever said club is known for. I used to hang in rock/metal/grunge venues, and believe me, the guys in the bands were every bit the bait that "ladies' night" might be in a dance club and the women were every bit as aggressive as the guys.
2) WOMEN like sex, too. Yep, guys, some of us just want to get laid. Deal with it.
3) Some guys don't want to marry the girls but they expect the girls to want to marry them. When they find out she was just in it for the night, they immediately label her a slut because they can't deal with the fact that they got played. How's that for a stereotype?
Note to the guys: If you sleep with a girl who likes you and treat her like a slut because she slept with you, you're a self-loathing pig and an idiot. She didn't lose her dignity - you did. If you go to a club looking for a "slut," you're a predator and you don't like women. Go to a brothel and leave the humans alone. You're making the rest of the guys look bad.
4) Sexual stereotypes and elaborate mating rituals in America are stupid, hurtful, and do more to get in the way of having sex than actually having sex - but that's another article.
5) We live in a rape culture where men make sport of lying to women for sex. Wedding Crashers, anyone? Lying to obtain sex isn't as bad as a violent rape, but it IS deception and such behavior is not acceptable in reasonable adults. If it were up to me, "Male Fraud" would be punishable by fines and imprisonment.
HOWEVER
6) We also live in a culture with general feminist awareness which means most of us know what does and doesn't constitute rape, in spite of our sick media. You don't have to have a college education to have heard the phrase "no means no."
Doesn't matter who says it, either. If you've ever seen the movie Forty Days, you saw the Josh Hartnett character get raped by his ex and then blamed for it by the new girl in his life. Women can be assholes, too, though you must admit, guys account for most of the statistics. You might disagree with 'no means no', but the law is quite clear and law trumps your humble opinions, boys - you wrote the laws, you live with them.
7) Rape is not about sex, so let's not mix them up.
*Rape is about dominance, hate, entitlement, and humiliation. It doesn't happen because a man is overcome by lust. It happens because a man hates women.
*Sex, on the other hand, is a delightful interaction between one or more consenting adults enjoying each other openly and everybody leaves happy. It's lots of fun. If it's not fun, you ain't doing it right...
8) If this society really wanted to cut down on the rapes, it would ban fraternities on college campuses. Don't hold your breath.
9) Any woman can be raped. They aren't always young and cute. Some of them are elderly. Some are disabled. Some are at home, minding their own business. Most of them will know their attacker. Not one of them "asked for it."
10) Rapists rarely rape once. This is why I say we need special legislation to address serial rape and child molestation, preferably making them capital crimes. That's the only way to keep a serial offender from repeating his crimes, and these crimes have a multi-generational effect on society. They have to be stopped cold.
Labels: Clueless, Crime, Feminism, Rape_Culture, Violence, Women



















8 Comments:
Thanks, so many things in the article seemed strange I didn't know if I was crazy or the authors.
Young women don't get herded into clubs and forced at gunpoint to accept free drinks.
"I think the reason most men go to bars and clubs is to find women."
Speak for yourself mate! I go to my local bar to drink beer and catch up with friends. I go to clubs for the music and atmosphere. "Meat market" is a term of abuse amongst clubbers, they usually have no atmosphere.
When a woman goes out in a sexy outfit she probably is considering the possibility of finding a sexual partner maybe tonight, maybe in future, maybe a long term partner or maybe just a casual fling. She isn't consenting to sex with any guy who finds her attractive. Why is that so difficult for people to grasp?
The existence of rape is a consequence of men being devoid of the guidance of a Great Mother diety. Other animals don't rape each other. And humans didn't rape each other either, before the War Gods Jehovah, Zeus, Odin, Vishnu, Allah and others took over human communities.
Rape is a consequence of the bogus War Gods Jehovah, Vishnu, Odin, Zeus and others taking over our old Goddess civilization. Rape doesn't happen among animals. And rape was unknown when we had a Mother Goddess heading our world.
Rape is a consequence of the bogus War Gods Jehovah, Vishnu, Odin, Zeus and others taking over our old Goddess civilization. Rape doesn't happen among animals. And rape was unknown when we had a Mother Goddess heading our world.
Rape is a consequence of the bogus War Gods Jehovah, Vishnu, Odin, Zeus and others taking over our old Goddess civilization. Rape doesn't happen among animals. And rape was unknown when we had a Mother Goddess heading our world.
A woman can wear a sexy outfit for many reasons besides wanting sex. No.ONe I just lost thirty pounds and look cute and wish to share my cuteness. Most women dress for the attention and envy of other women hence designer clothes If men had their way the only purveyour of clothes would lingerie catalogs and french maid outfits.
Men are primarily responsible for rape, but we betray our young boys at an impressionable age in adolescence in a society that encourages men to be predatory towards women. It is attitudes that the community teaches men that need to change; the banning of boys' social groups won't do anything except make them dissatisfied. If song lyrics, films, newspapers and violent monotheism teach boys that they should be able to "have" a woman if they desire her, then they are being encouraged to rape. The battle for respect for women needs to begin with how teenage boys view us; then when they grow up to be men, they will teach these values of love and honour to their sons.
Actually, some animals do rape each other. Male gorillas are known for being particularly dominant and commonly rape females, though evolutionary theory fortunately suggests we descended from chimps--less aggressive, though by no means peaceful animals.
Regardless of what other animals do, humans are supposed to have higher laws that would suggest against violating another person.
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